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Is the DDX Rugged enough to go offroad and on trails

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I ride in the woods of New England USA.
Its rocky and slimy trails to unmaintaned farm roads, dual track, and dirt roads... The stuff some of the NEBRD is made of. I set the bike up with the Ducati offroad bars and skid plate, Barkbuster handguards, Motoz tires front and back, a ducati magnetic tank bag, aftermarket GPS mount and a Garmin NT. Prior the the DDX I had a BMW F800GS for 5 years with a similar set up, which is my reference point.


My experience off road so far

I love the bike, the suspension, the the engine the ergos and how everything can be configured. It all works. All great stuff and a big improvement over the GS. Love the bike!

However. As you know when you ride off road and on trails you are going to drop the bike. It is inevitable. That is why I spent $2500+ on protection and BTW I am not worried about a few scratches. With the GS I dropped the bike, sunk it in swamps, pulled it out with a come-along and minus a few scrapes and sctaches, I picked the bike up and went on with no issues and put 24k fun ADV miles on it

Fast forward to the DDX. I have dropped it 3 times all under 10 MPH but there were issues each time

1st time - the brake lever bent, yes I bent it back, but now the sensor is a little sensitive when changing modes

2nd time - Dropped in a stream . The tank bag came off and started floating down the stream (with my phone in it!) and the tank has a small dent near the crash guard. If the guard went a little further back this would not of happened. As for the magnetic bag, its done, switching to a Mosko Moto tank bag with straps

3rd time - I was crossing a rock wall of field stones and stalled the bike and dropped it. Slow motion style (one of the moments you laugh at yourself...) The seat came flying off. When I put it on I found the little locking latch was bent and was found to be quite a flimsy mechanism. I had to hammer it back to get the seat to latch (ugh used my friends KTM tool kit). In doing so I saw the entire seat locking system, from the key to the mechanism that locks the seat seemed, fragile.

Is anyone else having these little delicate matters?
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1st thing I did was put some proper BarkBuster handguards on. That will help save your levers. You need hand guards with a metal bar running all the way around the outside. Acerbis also do one, but I've always had barkbusters and they've never let me down.
Your other comments are interesting. Tank bag, if it ain't tied on, chances are it will fall off. The seat lock is disappointing though, although, even when new the seat seams a bit loose. I may fashion some sort of hook or catch to support the locking mechanism.
The Ducati off-road kit handguards are not going to be what you need-- consider putting an exo-skeleton over them, like the Hepco guards:

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Unless you want to replace the whole handguard, in which case Barkbusters and the like.

I haven't been on the trails with mine yet (I'm also in New England--Vermont) but thanks for the report on the tank damage. The factory crash guards look solid, but it might turn out that aftermarket kits will provide better coverage. Since we're early adopters, we'll just have to share these kinds of experiences while the bike gets dialed in for off-road. Similar to you, I plan on taking this bike out on the trails once things dry out a bit and I'm eager to see how the protection does in our terrain.
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Guys, he said that he uses Barkbusters, and still bend the lever. OMG.
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Guys, he said that he uses Barkbusters, and still bend the lever. OMG.
I didn't notice that. Must have properly dropped it. Have a look at the ProBrake Tec2 levers. Looks like they fold if you hit them. Not too expensive either.
Guys, he said that he uses Barkbusters, and still bend the lever. OMG.
@here it was the rear break foot lever
The Ducati off-road kit handguards are not going to be what you need-- consider putting an exo-skeleton over them, like the Hepco guards:

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Unless you want to replace the whole handguard, in which case Barkbusters and the like.

I haven't been on the trails with mine yet (I'm also in New England--Vermont) but thanks for the report on the tank damage. The factory crash guards look solid, but it might turn out that aftermarket kits will provide better coverage. Since we're early adopters, we'll just have to share these kinds of experiences while the bike gets dialed in for off-road. Similar to you, I plan on taking this bike out on the trails once things dry out a bit and I'm eager to see how the protection does in our terrain.
Definitely go for the MotoZ tractionator tires - the Rally z. Great off road performance for our neck of the woods, they wear well too
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It's a capable bike offroad but I'm not a fan of the bash plate being mounted on the cylinder head ,to me that's just real dodgy design and a big enough hit could damage the cylinder
It's a capable bike offroad but I'm not a fan of the bash plate being mounted on the cylinder head ,to me that's just real dodgy design and a big enough hit could damage the cylinder
That design is for road use which is just fine for the typical buyer, but that's why they offer the off-road skid plate.

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For me, my primary goal is to take my DX off-road as much as possible, so getting it off-road ready has been my top priority. Obviously, crash bars, upgraded bash plate, double-take mirrors, and quality hand guards (Barkbusters for me) are a must. Only issue I’ve had so far (after dumping the bike several times in lots of different types of terrain) is a slightly bent shift lever. Went down several times just yesterday. Twice on a gnarly, rocky hill climb and that’s where I bent the shift lever and also slightly dented the tank 🤷‍♂️. In my view, if you’re gonna take your bike off road on more than gravel you should be prepared to mess it up pretty good. It’s the nature of the beast!

Having owned and ridden several KTM’s including my buddy’s brand new 23’ 890 Adventure R, I think that KTM‘s are more rugged out of the box than the DX. It’s not to say that the DX is a fragile bike, but on the whole, its design is a bit more focused on beauty than utility. For me, that was a trade I was willing to make, which is why I own a DX and not an 890.
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Definitely go for the MotoZ tractionator tires - the Rally z. Great off road performance for our neck of the woods, they wear well too
I’ve got the RallZ on my DX as well... They’re phenomenal on both street and off-road. Love them.
I’ve got the RallZ on my DX as well... They’re phenomenal on both street and off-road. Love them.
I've used them before on my KTM 890 and intend to put on my Desert X as well. The 890 was a great bike but I could not stand the tank hanging down low and sticking out. The Desert X is a beautiful machine. I purchased the touring windscreen and took it back because I thought it looked weird.
For me, my primary goal is to take my DX off-road as much as possible, so getting it off-road ready has been my top priority. Obviously, crash bars, upgraded bash plate, double-take mirrors, and quality hand guards (Barkbusters for me) are a must. Only issue I’ve had so far (after dumping the bike several times in lots of different types of terrain) is a slightly bent shift lever. Went down several times just yesterday. Twice on a gnarly, rocky hill climb and that’s where I bent the shift lever and also slightly dented the tank 🤷‍♂️. In my view, if you’re gonna take your bike off road on more than gravel you should be prepared to mess it up pretty good. It’s the nature of the beast!

Having owned and ridden several KTM’s including my buddy’s brand new 23’ 890 Adventure R, I think that KTM‘s are more rugged out of the box than the DX. It’s not to say that the DX is a fragile bike, but on the whole, its design is a bit more focused on beauty than utility. For me, that was a trade I was willing to make, which is why I own a DX and not an 890.
Now that you personally own and or ridden both the DDX and the 890... offroad and beyond the gravel, which bike is more capable? what do you like or dislike about each (offroad)?
Now that you personally own and or ridden both the DDX and the 890... offroad and beyond the gravel, which bike is more capable? what do you like or dislike about each (offroad)?
So I know you didn’t direct this question at me, however, my buddy just picked up a new 23’ 890 Adventure R (he also has a 22’ 1290 Super Adventure R) and I’ve been able to compare all three bikes extensively off-road. Here are my impressions:

• KTM wins the suspension comparison hands down. Both the 1290 and the 890 have a better feel off-road when it comes to how their suspension handles the terrain. I’ve been able to bottom out the DX suspension several times. That said, I have yet to fully dial the suspension of the DX in with suspension expert (that’s on the agenda though), but the KTM’s haven’t been adjusted in any way either, and they just feel better out of the box. In the end, I‘lol probably end up upgrading the DX suspension to get it exactly how I want it. No big deal.

• The DX hits a sweet spot between the 890 and the 1290. So the 890 is an amazing bike off road. It feels so light and small. It’s like a big dirt bike. That said, it’s almost a little too small for me. Keep in mind, I’m 6’5” 220lbs, so I’m probably the exception here. I LOVE the ergos of the 1290 and in many applications it’s a phenomenal off-road bike, however, when the terrain gets more technical, or when you have to pick it up, you can REALLY feel the weight. The DX is the best of both worlds. The bike doesn’t feel quite as small as the 890, but it’s nowhere near as heavy as the 1290. I know it’s only 50lbs lighter, but man, whatever wizardry the Ducati engineers pulled off to make this bike ”feel” lighter, it totally worked, because it feels great. Additionally, I can feel the difference in the wheelbase length of the DX. It makes the bike feel more stable than the 890. Not sure how else to describe that, but you can definitely tell when you’re pushing it around a corner in the dirt.

• The engine in the DX is just wonderful. Again, I feel like it splits the difference between the 1290 and the 890 beautifully. The V-twin of the DX vs the parallel twin of the 890 is just more fun IMO. It feels like it has more power to me, and that’s something that I really like.

• Lastly, I think KTM wins with their electronics setup. The DX has all the rider modes and they’re all fully adjustable which is great, but I think the KTM interface (especially on the 23’ 890) is just superior as you can adjust the traction control on the fly through a simple toggle switch on the left handlebar. The DX requires you to through several different menus to make the same adjustment. It’s not a huge deal, and clearly, it’s not a deal breaker for someone like me who already owns a DX, but it’s just something that I noticed.

In the end, I would still choose the DX even the 890 and the 1290 are AWESOME machines. If I had gone the KTM route I’d probably own both the 890 and the 1290 (already had a 22‘ 1290 SAR before the DX) as both bikes really do feel so different and both have different advantages. Ryan F9 really got it right when he said that the DX falls into a category all its own. It’s a fantastic street bike AND a fantastic dirt bike. It’s probably not the best in the segment at either, but it’s pretty darn good in both applications... plus it looks amazing!
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For me, my primary goal is to take my DX off-road as much as possible, so getting it off-road ready has been my top priority. Obviously, crash bars, upgraded bash plate, double-take mirrors, and quality hand guards (Barkbusters for me) are a must. Only issue I’ve had so far (after dumping the bike several times in lots of different types of terrain) is a slightly bent shift lever. Went down several times just yesterday. Twice on a gnarly, rocky hill climb and that’s where I bent the shift lever and also slightly dented the tank 🤷‍♂️. In my view, if you’re gonna take your bike off road on more than gravel you should be prepared to mess it up pretty good. It’s the nature of the beast!

Having owned and ridden several KTM’s including my buddy’s brand new 23’ 890 Adventure R, I think that KTM‘s are more rugged out of the box than the DX. It’s not to say that the DX is a fragile bike, but on the whole, its design is a bit more focused on beauty than utility. For me, that was a trade I was willing to make, which is why I own a DX and not an 890.
Check out outback motortek crash bars and bash plate, you won't have any worries going off road
Adventure Spec are also bringing out some hard parts very soon. Engine bars, rack, bash plate, sidestand enlarger.

Their stuff is great quality. So is their motorcycle clothing.
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